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1. no advice on mediawiki, but if you have not already checked it out, take a look at nathan's folio wiki plugin - it's incredibly simple and intuitive, inherits wysiwig edits, simple integration into toolbar, along with a very, very nice activity browser and the ability to control what displays in the toolbar via its own config (e.g. i removed 'dashboard' because i have 'your activity' via the plugin which is much deeper and may confuse people..) - and of course it inherits all of the user rights and so on...

   daveinboston on Sunday, 11 March 2007, 21:38 UTC # |

2. thanks. . i checked out the earlier version of nathan's plugin and it was indeed great.  the thing is that I really just want the wiki for the main site FAQ and I don't want individual users to have the wiki their own wiki in their sidebar.  I was not sure that Nathan's plugin could be used as a master wiki wiithout having each individual having their own wiki . .

   Todd on Sunday, 11 March 2007, 21:58 UTC # |

3. i'm not sure about limiting use (e.g. 'admin only wiki accounts?) - BUT consider this: you have dog lovers on your site, some whom may have put together unique guides to doing things (training, breeding, and so on) - those are not always well suited to a date stamped blog post, but rather a wiki...
   
   
   also, you might have a community like "house training" and beyond tales and stories, the members could actually build a wiki outlining tips and specifics (urban, rural, with paper, without, and so on)...
   
   
   personally, i think it's a nice feature to have and the folio wiki is so intuitive using 'pages' as a metaphor (versus wiki this and wiki that) that i can't imagine users having trouble with it...
   
   
   
   

   daveinboston on Monday, 12 March 2007, 04:41 UTC # |

4. dave - you are probably right. . .I hadn't thought about the community wiki thing either.  I will give it another shot.

   Todd on Monday, 12 March 2007, 12:39 UTC # |

5. Hi there,

   "I also set up the wiki dbase as a separate dbase to the elgg one" - you need to make sure the Mediawiki plugin is accessing the Elgg users table.

   "there is no integration of look and feel" - nope, the integration is purely for authentication. I skinned up the integration here on elgg.org; it was a bit of a hassle as I was not used to Mediawiki skinning but it can be done.

   David Tosh on Monday, 12 March 2007, 13:04 UTC # |

6. ah, that beautiful skinning is misleading - i bet most people think you just integrate and it automatically inherits the look and feel...
   
   
   it's more of a personal thing - for some wiki constructs, mediawiki is a robust and powerful (and super scalable) solution...but after using it, i'm leaning toward the folio wiki plugin because it was built by the elgg community (nathan) for elgg specifically, and it completely falls into the design and user layout without requiring another dbase check on user tables...
   
   
   only odd thing is that wiki pages with folio are not indexed by google! any thoughts on that? it may be a page header, but i have no idea...if you have a suggestion, i'm happy to try it out...

   daveinboston on Monday, 12 March 2007, 22:00 UTC # |

7. Ah, I am not sure if I have the temerity to do the skinning and the restructuring of the mediawiki navigation as done on elgg.  It is pretty. . . Gee, I wonder if David Tosh, you would be willing to share the modified mediawiki?  That would make an easier starting place for those of us who want to try it.

   Also considering going back to the folio plugin, but it appears that the version for .70 has some bugs still (not that I'm not willing to help trouble shoot, but I haven't installed yet and so don't know on what level these are.  Also, I'm very much a fan of the forum plugin and it appears that there is a somewhat major conflict there between the two plugins.

   That said, the issue with google indexing folio pages sounds very strange on the surface.  Google is usually good about indexing regardless of page headers (i think) and basically if it is a clickable link that resides at the same domain it usually gets in.  

   Probably will test folio though. 

   Todd on Monday, 12 March 2007, 23:39 UTC # |

8. Hi Todd;

   If your only concern is having a wiki for certain accounts only, I can add an option in the config.php to restrict it.  I'm hoping to wrap it up this afternoon, 1/2 of the bugs are fixed already, and I just need a little bit more time... 

   Yah, I'm not sure why Google isn't indexing pages on Dave's site.  I just checked our site again, and it seems like it's picking up on them without any trouble.  Dave, have you tried registering your site with google's website administrator toolkit?  You can see when google's indexed your site, and can  set a lot of options. 

   Nathan Garrett on Tuesday, 13 March 2007, 15:07 UTC # |

9. Nathan - I think it would be a good option for people to have in config, but now I'm not sure that I would ask you to add it in if it's a big task.  I do like the idea of having users be able to construct their own wikis based on their interests.  I think I will try that out and see how it goes.  See my other not on the main post you did on the new version, for some additional feedback.  Looking forward to testing the latest version.

   Todd on Wednesday, 14 March 2007, 00:26 UTC # |

10. Todd, maybe this can help you.

    Elgg toolbar and mediawiki plugin: mod/mediawiki

    See you. 

    Tom on Wednesday, 04 April 2007, 15:57 UTC # |