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(20:32:58) #elggdev: modus (+nt ) door irc.curverider.co.uk
(22:01:57) tim [~4801ce03@207.250.49.24] is de ruimte binnengekomen.
(22:04:54) misja: hi tim
(22:05:28) timh [~tim@161.216.42.174] is de ruimte binnengekomen.
(22:05:42) timh: anyone home
(22:05:48) misja: hi
(22:05:52) timh: hi
(22:05:59) misja: how are you?
(22:06:27) guest2352 [~never@static-200-105-190-228.acelerate.net] is de ruimte binnengekomen.
(22:06:57) timh: one seec
(22:07:27) tim is weggegaan (quit: Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)).
(22:08:14) tmdesktop [~4801ce03@207.250.49.24] is de ruimte binnengekomen.
(22:08:22) misja: rho, is that you?
(22:10:41) misja: timh, is it working ok?
(22:12:52) guest2352 heet nu rho
(22:13:17) tmdesktop is weggegaan (quit: Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)).
(22:13:42) misja: hi rho
(22:13:56) rho: hi
(22:14:25) misja: have you perhaps heard of Diego?
(22:14:39) rho: ...what?
(22:14:53) misja: if he would be able to make it?
(22:16:20) misja: ewout did let me know he wouldn't be able to join us, didn't hear from Diego
(22:16:28) rho: ...dunnoh =/
(22:16:32) misja: ok
(22:16:49) misja: timh, how are you?
(22:20:04) misja: rho, how is Jose doing?
(22:20:48) rho: he was busy these days doing another project, i'll ask later how is going on
(22:21:07) misja: ok, looking forward to the final theme
(22:22:05) misja: I think things are looking good now, good enough for a release candidate tomorrow
(22:22:34) misja: one thing though, the installer, what we talked about earlier
(22:22:35) rho: somebody tested on windows?
(22:22:46) misja: ah, no windows here ...
(22:22:53) misja: tim?
(22:25:44) misja: I'll do a postgresql test too,
(22:26:21) misja: but about the installer, will we let people create config.php and .htaccess by hand?
(22:28:34) rho: or, in the distribution include already renamed .htaccess and config.php
(22:29:02) rho: the installer if config.php does not exists ask to the user to set writable dirroot
(22:29:13) rho: but if exists ask to set config.php writable
(22:29:29) misja: ok
(22:29:49) rho: how is going the installation guide?
(22:29:55) misja: let's do that then,
(22:30:11) misja: will nee to ask tim
(22:30:47) rho: will be useful an install.html
(22:30:52) rho: so we can link from installer
(22:31:34) misja: it is still a word document, I think a pdf will do better
(22:32:39) rho: ETA for rc?
(22:32:58) misja: I want it out tomorrow
(22:33:33) rho: ok
(22:33:46) rho: i'd tried to fix blog issue on posting
(22:33:55) rho: appears a annoying message
(22:34:00) misja: yes, I was looking at it too
(22:34:04) rho: but i couldn't get it
(22:34:12) misja: me neither
(22:34:23) misja: I think it has to to with the form url
(22:34:43) misja: when editing it's weblog/edit
(22:34:57) rho: i compared with 0.8 code, has very little differences
(22:35:05) misja: but get's submitted to weblog/ - different url hence the message?
(22:35:30) rho: i tried to set to same page, set action="", but the same behavior
(22:36:02) misja: yes, I'm running out of ideas too ...
(22:37:25) misja: we could disable the feature and return to the problem later
(22:37:39) misja: unless diego has some idea
(22:37:42) rho: how disable?
(22:37:54) misja: it's a tinymce plugin
(22:37:57) timagain [~4801ce03@207.250.49.24] is de ruimte binnengekomen.
(22:38:41) misja: see tinymce_js.php
(22:39:20) misja: it's the autosave plugin
(22:40:33) misja: tim?
(22:41:14) rho: i didn't noticed that could be tinymce 
(22:41:19) rho: i disabled and works ok
(22:41:24) misja: yes it is
(22:42:18) rho: yes
(22:42:22) rho: autosave issue
(22:43:02) timagain is weggegaan (quit: Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)).
(22:43:06) rho: but, afaik, autosave plugin needs ajax and a script on server side
(22:44:09) rho: will you remove autosave from tinymce settings?
(22:44:21) misja: yes, I'll do it
(22:44:26) timh: im back  sorry about that
(22:44:28) rho: great
(22:44:47) misja: hi tim, everything ok?
(22:45:10) timh: yes but have to irc from my phone...
(22:45:20) timh: slow totype
(22:45:32) misja: oh, must be a little awkward
(22:46:11) misja: have you done any more work on th einstall document?
(22:46:33) timh: im worried abiut elggdev save step
(22:47:07) misja: not sure I understand
(22:47:10) timh: i have updated and can have it ready tonight i hope
(22:47:19) misja: ok
(22:47:34) misja: were you able to follow the conversation?
(22:47:47) misja: we wer talking a little about the installer earlier
(22:47:48) timh: when you login to elggadmin and save breaks the install
(22:47:56) timh: no
(22:48:39) misja: ah, I think I have fixed that issue in r1393
(22:48:44) timh: i emailed about that yesterday
(22:48:49) timh: great
(22:49:06) rho: i'm working on a elggadmin replacement, it's 50% advanced
(22:49:29) timh: ill test and finish the install doc for  new installs then work on an upgrade doc
(22:49:52) misja: rho, I thought you were just moving it to mod?
(22:49:59) timh: will replace just sit  in adminarea
(22:50:15) timh: for news user
(22:50:24) rho: no, i'm converting elggadmin into a mod
(22:50:38) rho: same functionality but as plugin
(22:50:41) misja: ok I see
(22:50:50) rho: what do you think?
(22:50:57) timh: ok but like batchadmin mod it will be for any admin account
(22:51:15) misja: I thought you meant completely rewriting it
(22:51:33) rho: a kind of
(22:51:40) misja: tim, yes, for admin
(22:51:50) timh: i think mod is a good place for this
(22:52:03) rho: i'll add a flag to lock site configuration
(22:52:07) misja: yes, moving it to mod is excellent
(22:52:46) misja: tim, we'll also be distributing a .htaccess and config.php file, so the user will only need to set proper permissions for the config file and dta directory
(22:52:47) timh: the new pages mod is excellent
(22:52:54) misja: ys, love it
(22:53:03) timh: ok great i like that
(22:53:19) timh: so for upgrades they must me careful
(22:53:46) rho: i estimate i'll finish in the next hours to test that elggadmin works ok for everybody
(22:54:25) misja: wonderful :)
(22:55:03) misja: tim, a note of coution when upgrading should be very visible
(22:55:07) timh: any other tasks i can help with?
(22:55:19) timh: will do
(22:56:38) misja: we'll need to start modifying the CHANGES file, maybe that could be something?
(22:57:16) timh: sure ill go through closed tickets to catch what i can
(22:57:34) misja: plus there are quite some smaller changes in teh code which need referenced in the wiki
(22:58:03) misja: have a look hrough the tickets and changesets to get an idea?
(22:58:09) timh: im not sure what you mean
(22:58:28) timh: re wiki
(22:58:46) misja: e.g. th enew sidebar mod is an example
(22:59:08) misja: quite a change and would be good to have something in the wiki about it
(22:59:25) timh: ok i have to figure that out myself...
(22:59:52) misja: have a look, but no worries if you feel uncomfortable doing it
(23:00:42) timh: ill levae sidebar since i havent tested it much myself
(23:00:52) timh: ive got to go 
(23:00:54) timh: sorry
(23:01:05) misja: ok, thanks for being here
(23:01:15) misja: btw
(23:01:28) misja: we'll be releasing an rc tomorow
(23:01:34) timh: ill try to get the docs up in html tonight
(23:01:41) timh: great
(23:01:48) misja: ok, great :)
(23:01:53) rho: i think the repository log could give a good overview
(23:01:54) timh: bye
(23:01:56) misja: bye
(23:02:01) rho: bye tim
(23:02:07) timh is weggegaan (quit: Remote host closed the connection).
(23:02:21) misja: rho, did you have a look at http://elgg.org/trac/ticket/167
(23:03:29) misja: it's still open - any ideaa how to best approach it?
(23:06:00) rho: let me reproduce it
(23:07:40) rho: oh, i got generic comments notices
(23:08:16) misja: oh, you have?
(23:08:32) misja: I couldn't reproduce it
(23:09:07) misja: I mean the notices, so closed the ticket
(23:09:19) rho: i get it on communties files
(23:12:36) misja: you're getting the ones describes in http://elgg.org/trac/ticket/116 ?
(23:16:08) rho: yes, but now it's fixed ;)
(23:16:52) misja: you're incredibly quick :)
(23:21:07) rho: no, just added 3 lines
(23:21:23) rho: i looked before
(23:21:27) rho: a days ago
(23:21:36) misja: ok :)
(23:21:37) rho: and.. it's quite complex that code =/
(23:21:53) misja: very much ;)
(23:22:33) rho: the timezone related ticket
(23:22:48) rho: it think will be for the next release, right? 0.9.1
(23:22:58) misja: yes
(23:29:16) rho: confirm me this, a person is member if user has as friend the community, right?
(23:30:38) misja: in friends table, owner would be the user, friend is the community
(23:30:47) rho: right
(23:32:21) rho: what's should mean if on table community is the owner and user is friend?
(23:33:14) misja: nothing happens, I had that wrong this afternoon
(23:33:51) rho: maybe could mean that user is also administrator for that community?
(23:34:18) misja: yes, that's right
(23:34:28) rho: :)
(23:34:58) rho: so owner can set administrators for communities using that relationship, right?
(23:35:19) misja: yes, he could
(23:35:30) rho: ok, i was checking files permissions issue
(23:40:56) rho: maybe should be there another permissions "files:upload"
(23:42:30) misja: wouldn't it be the same as files:edit?
(23:43:07) rho: an user with that permission can edit any file
(23:43:29) rho: or..
(23:43:44) rho: on the edit file function
(23:44:07) rho: checks files:edit permissions with file->owner and file->files_owner
(23:46:10) misja: could be an option
(23:46:57) rho: to allow users to upload files, must have the files:edit permissions on files_owner
(23:47:32) rho: but on editing a file, check for files:edit permission on owner or files_owner
(23:48:28) misja: ok I see the distinction
(23:49:11) rho: and for uploading or creating folder, check "file" permission
(23:52:10) misja: makes sense
(23:53:07) misja: rho, we could pick this up tomorrow, it's getting late
(23:53:35) rho: ok
(23:53:42) misja: btw, still need your picture and bio ;)
(23:53:53) rho: oh yes, i forget it
(23:54:15) misja: just send it over when you've got some time
(23:54:34) misja: bye for now, I'll be on irc tomorrow
(23:54:37) rho: ok
(23:54:41) misja: bye
(23:54:43) rho: bye